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  • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_4943.JPG Views:	0 Size:	113.6 KB ID:	107930 Now onto the forward rocker joint.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_4944.JPG Views:	0 Size:	160.0 KB ID:	107931 Wiped in tinning acid and a base of solder.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_4946.JPG Views:	0 Size:	108.3 KB ID:	107932 Again, I 'll chase the divots out in filler primer and putty.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_4949.JPG Views:	0 Size:	202.3 KB ID:	107933 By the way I pulled so much solder out of this door that it was almost a crime to just throw it away. Instead I reconstituted it into sticks and reused most of it. I figured we saved at least a 100 bucks in solder here.
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    Onto the rear door jamb area.
    Justin Rio

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    • Rear jamb:
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ID:	107936 Slowly applying and filing in the relief shapes.
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ID:	107938 Trickiest part of adding on more is not melting away what you've already built. Bondo is so much more forgiving.
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ID:	107939 By sessions end I had the basic shape and fill I was after.
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ID:	107937 Gap and rear lower rocker joint as well.
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ID:	107940 As before, I'll chase the rest of the flaws out with putty and primer. Just a little more soldering to the door itself yet to do.

      Thanks for looking!
      Justin
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      • How true Justin the leading skill needs practice often to perfect. Also I lost so much on vertical surfaces and re-used it as well like you. Some really nice finishing work on the doors what a difference that makes!
        Roy

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        • JTR70
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          It was hard leaving behind some of those divots Roy but the risk of screwing up what I had built was too great to chase them out. As you said, the vertical surfaces will frustrate the hell out of you until you have the practice put in. Thanks again!

      • Beautiful lead work Justin.

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        • JTR70
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          Thanks Phil! Not as beautiful as I'd like but it will do...

      • A little more lead and onto the next phase.
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ID:	107948 Last of the soldering work was to the back edge of the door to conceal the pinch seam as was done originally.
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ID:	107949 All set. As with the rest of it I'll get the last of the imperfections out with putty.
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ID:	107950 A very long road to finally arrive here but this side is now ready for body and paint work.
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ID:	107951 All the basic lines and gaps are in a solid foundation of lead and steel so just a skim coat of mud is all that is needed to get it the rest of the way.
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ID:	107952 Scrubbing all leaded areas thoroughly with warm soapy water and a brillo pad to make sure all the tinning acids are neutralized.
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        • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_4994.JPG Views:	0 Size:	133.8 KB ID:	107954 heavy coat of epoxy sealer applied.
          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5001.JPG Views:	0 Size:	159.2 KB ID:	107955 Door reinastalled for initial application of putty.
          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5002.JPG Views:	0 Size:	142.5 KB ID:	107956 Putty taking care of those divots and other blemishes in my leadwork nicely.
          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5005.JPG Views:	0 Size:	146.6 KB ID:	107957 Between applications I went onto another metal correction project. Both fender mount tabs were installed upside down by the previous shop. The left side I did earlier so it was now onto this side. Melted the solder away...
          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5004.JPG Views:	0 Size:	136.0 KB ID:	107958 To find this cleft shaped area where the tab is now mounted. Cutting this back out next.
          Thanks for looking!
          Justin
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          • Right rear fender brace and tab:
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ID:	107960 This was my easiest approach to both remove the tab for flipping and to get rid of this trigger point holding that cleft shape that was back filled.
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            Not quite the way it should have been attached to the back of the body but removal was at least easy.
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ID:	107962 My repair patch would be slightly larger than I first thought . This way I eliminate a little more old accident damage in the process.
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ID:	107963 Nothing is ever straight forward. With the tab in its correct orientation the brace positions the mating tang of this tab well below the edge of the fender. Maybe this is why they mounted these tabs upside down in the first place; its the only way they'd fit.
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ID:	107964 Out the brace came for repositioning so it can all go back together correctly. Now for the fun part of grinding down those welds laying on the floor. More later...

            Thanks for looking!
            Justin
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            • New patch:
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5029.JPG Views:	0 Size:	114.9 KB ID:	107966 Rummaging through my scraps I found the perfect remnant section from my coupster project. Its the exact spot as you can see where the holes where drilled to remove its mount tab. Perfect example of why I can't bring myself to throw old original scraps away.
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              Got my work all cut out for myself here.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5032.JPG Views:	0 Size:	113.3 KB ID:	107968 Trimming the donor section back to needed size.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5038.JPG Views:	0 Size:	127.8 KB ID:	107969 Decided to go just a little larger as I could eliminate some more old damage.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5037.JPG Views:	0 Size:	179.4 KB ID:	107970 Donor patch all clean and ready to go. there is subtle curve in it so this was much easier and quicker than making it out of some fresh flat stock. note the factory hammer marks towards the top.
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              Justin Rio

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              • New section installed.
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                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5041.JPG Views:	0 Size:	96.7 KB ID:	107973 It will still need hammer shaping after all the welding is done but its at least in the ballpark.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5053.JPG Views:	0 Size:	116.7 KB ID:	107974 All stitched in and dressed.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5034.JPG Views:	0 Size:	92.2 KB ID:	107975 Simultaneously Blocking and filling.,Second coat of sealer here.
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                More later.... Thanks for stopping by!
                Justin
                Last edited by JTR70; 03-12-2020, 06:48 AM.
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                • Rear fender brace details:
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ID:	107981 Now that the new patch is fully stitched in I could move onto locating the tab in its correct orientation .
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ID:	107982 As the mock ups progressed with the brace there was something about the tip that just didn't seem right.
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                  A quick look under my car confirmed it. The tips are supposed to be splayed out.
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ID:	107985 This Simonsen brace must be a B/C version. Its here and I had to move on so I just cut it apart and am making the needed changes to the tip. Old tips cut free and one end already splayed out.
                  Justin Rio

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                  • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5062.JPG Views:	0 Size:	162.5 KB ID:	107987 Getting the new ends dialed in with needed kick on the bottom run for the right approach angle with the fender tab.
                    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5064.JPG Views:	0 Size:	182.8 KB ID:	107988 Initial mock ups to get it all to fit and work together. After all that the brace is now of course too short so some extension lengths were next.
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                    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5076.JPG Views:	0 Size:	219.7 KB ID:	107991 Fully welded and set. Just needs a scuff and will get another round of rocker shootz before its all over. Onto the next deal...

                    Thanks for looking!
                    Justin
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                    • Justin
                      more nice work. I clicked on like but looks like it showed unlike.

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                      • JTR70
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                        Thank you Phil! It worked, the "unlike" you're seeing on your end is the option to change your mind.

                    • Hey what a story Justin. That needed patience and so right, the chance to have a copy part. Just how do people manage this level of restoration without having parts to copy? I have the answer though, they just need to look at all your efforts over the years they will see the answers with your super dooper photos my friend.

                      The present owner of this car is so lucky to have found you to correct so many mistakes. Well done again. That front door shut gaps are so good and so even
                      and so little lead. Really great bit of work!
                      Roy
                      Last edited by JTR70; 03-19-2020, 06:27 AM.

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                      • JTR70
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                        Thanks a lot Roy! Absolutely, without original examples to look off of I'd be sunk for sure. I appreciate it but I have since run into some major trouble with that right door again so all that work with the gaps is as of this moment toast. I'll post all that a bit later.

                    • Left brace correction:
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5085.JPG Views:	0 Size:	182.5 KB ID:	107998 When I corrected the left fender tab orientation some time back this tip detail escaped me. It of course had to match so out it came. Fortunately it was only bolted to the chassis so removal was much more pleasant experience. As the red primer signifies its a Simonsen piece.
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                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5093.JPG Views:	0 Size:	181.9 KB ID:	108000 New tips all welded in. Now onto correcting that inner mount flange.
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                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5096.JPG Views:	0 Size:	182.1 KB ID:	108002 Simonsen set this inner flange up with smaller capture nuts that took the 10MM headed bolt but the originals where set up for the 13 or 14MM headed bolt. I went ahead installed the larger capture nuts.
                      Last edited by JTR70; 03-19-2020, 06:56 AM.
                      Justin Rio

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                      • Left brace reinstallation:
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5086.JPG Views:	0 Size:	147.7 KB ID:	108004 Here is what my original T2 example was showing me. Left over removable T1 braces with the capture nuts but gas welded permanently in place at the bottom and spot welded in at the top. Mind you that this is a Reutter tail section.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5098.JPG Views:	0 Size:	311.2 KB ID:	108005 Began cleaning and prepping the chassis to follow this detail but I could find no evidence of a brace being previously welded by the factory here.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_5099.JPG Views:	0 Size:	241.8 KB ID:	108006 The holes where old too and not put in by the previous shop to simply mount that Simonsen brace in as purchased. These were also opened for the larger bolt so I eventually came to the conclusion that this must be a Drauz thing and these late T2's came from the factory removable just like the 1956-57 T1's did for a 4-cam option if ordered.
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ID:	108008 I'm at bit of a disadvantage not being the one to see this car and take note of how it originally was or having a Drauz bodied car in town to look off of but fortunately in this instance I had just enough to go on to get it right. All done under here.
                        Thanks for looking!
                        Justin
                        Last edited by JTR70; 03-19-2020, 07:23 AM.
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