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  • JTR70
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    Rear bumper to body reveal and contour issues.

    Shortly after sending the mock up shots in the previous posts to the owner, I was made aware that the reveal and the general contour shape at the corners were too wide and unsatisfactory. I really didn't question it at first as the bumper is original with no previous collision damage and the tail skin also being original though with minor damage retains its general overall factory contoured shape.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2993.jpg Views:	3 Size:	163.2 KB ID:	116682 It does swing big and wide at the corners.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2994.jpg Views:	3 Size:	168.5 KB ID:	116683 Both sides...
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2931.jpg Views:	3 Size:	185.9 KB ID:	116684 but so does this bumper though not quite as accentuated. This is an original undamaged AT1 bumper mounted with original irons against an original AT1 tail skin. This seems to be just a general production fit and they tend to swing a little wide at the corners. We discussed all this and while this may have been the way they came to varying degrees he felt that fitment on this car was too poor and would be seen as an obvious shortcoming to its final presentation.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2998.jpg Views:	3 Size:	159.6 KB ID:	116685 I unbolted the bumper set in a box and pushed it over to the left side to create this much tighter uniformed reveal with an improved overall contour shape against the tail. This pleased us both immediately.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2999.jpg Views:	3 Size:	159.8 KB ID:	116686 By contrast this is where the left side ended up to create that tight and uniform shape on the other side. This is going to require a good bit of alteration to the bumper to achieve the fit we're after against this body.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 06-28-2025, 07:17 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    More rear bumper component confirmation fitment:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2986.jpg Views:	0 Size:	200.7 KB ID:	116676 Crawled under the car to add the exhuast funnels to confirm ample clearance with the body's lower skirt. Left side clear...
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2988.jpg Views:	0 Size:	184.2 KB ID:	116677 and all clear on the right side as well.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2983.jpg Views:	0 Size:	189.3 KB ID:	116678 All the while keeping the struts centered through the holes.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2984.jpg Views:	0 Size:	184.8 KB ID:	116679 Left side good to go.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2982.jpg Views:	0 Size:	169.1 KB ID:	116680 Lastly, the reveal around the body spaced out to its best average fit. The center could stand to come out a touch more to catch up with the sides but at this point the bumper is pulled out as far as it would go. Any further and the struts would no longer reach without modification so the factory parameters were now coming into play.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 06-27-2025, 09:57 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Strut tube work:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2976.jpg Views:	0 Size:	188.3 KB ID:	116670 A heavy bar with my floor jack made for the most straight forward and easy correction on those curled over tabs. Only a matter of dialing in the mounting surface at just the right height so the tube would exit out of the hole at center.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2979.jpg Views:	3 Size:	278.1 KB ID:	116671 As the test fitting moved over to the left side I realized that I had been supplied with two right hand units.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2980.jpg Views:	3 Size:	247.4 KB ID:	116672 Quickest solution so I could keep going was to cut off an end and flip it over for a left hand application.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2981.jpg Views:	3 Size:	206.1 KB ID:	116673 Modified tube tack welded and in for a confirmation fit. Mounting tab at just the right level for the tube to exist out in the center. Ready to weld it back up.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2985.jpg Views:	3 Size:	211.6 KB ID:	116674 With that I had every bumper related component mounted and fitting together as best as I was hoping for at this stage.
    Last edited by JTR70; 06-27-2025, 08:16 AM.

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  • JTR70
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    Bumper Iron finishingClick image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2971.jpg Views:	0 Size:	203.9 KB ID:	116657 After several sounds of heat and readjustments to both halves I finally had the needed approach angle along with the eyelet alignment I was after.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2974.jpg Views:	0 Size:	168.6 KB ID:	116658 Repeat left side...
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2990.jpg Views:	0 Size:	196.7 KB ID:	116659 Towards the end of this sides' process I ended up with about the same issue as I did on the right side; oh well at least I was consistent. Onto another round of give and take from both halves to get this issue smoothed out.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2978.jpg Views:	0 Size:	202.5 KB ID:	116660 First full bumper mock up with fully bolted up irons and chrome trim.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2975.jpg Views:	0 Size:	183.4 KB ID:	116661 Begin introducing the strut tubes for further fitment and locating confirmation. A little more residual old crash damage discovered as the mounting tabs have been bent downward.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 06-27-2025, 08:29 AM.

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  • JTR70
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    Bumper iron sculpting:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2936.jpg Views:	0 Size:	242.7 KB ID:	116651 A brief and small window into what turned out to be a constant repeated process of shaping these irons to not only fit into the bumper mounts flush but also allowing for maximum adjustment at the eyelets while holding the bumper centered with the desired reveal away from the tail and at the right pitch.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2935.jpg Views:	3 Size:	238.1 KB ID:	116652Above shots are just two examples of what turned out to be many, many holding jig configurations then onto heat so these heavy pieces of steel could manipulated closer with each try into the needed shape and length whare needed.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2939.jpg Views:	3 Size:	177.6 KB ID:	116653 Eventually got a flush fit into the bumper mounts but as you can see that was only a start. The ends are cockeyed and need some twist at the tips so they'll run parallel from side to side with one another. The eyelets on the frame side of this mount are nearly even at this point....
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2942.jpg Views:	3 Size:	207.5 KB ID:	116654 but once the ends were heeled over to meet the pitch that is needed for a flush fit against the chassis the tail length and eyelet alignment went completely out the window. The eyelets on the bumper side are also bottomed out against each other locking out any lateral adjustments options that may be needed... back to the drawing board.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2943.jpg Views:	3 Size:	212.7 KB ID:	116655 With the pitch set and the ends brought back to open and even the end on this irons' eyelet was way out of range. This would require another round of give and take from both halves to dial all of this in to where it was needed. Again, this was just one example in a long series of repeated adjustments and mock ups to get these to fit properly. After it was decided that the bumper needed to be modified this process began again... all of that a bit later.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 06-27-2025, 08:27 AM.

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  • JTR70
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    Rear bumper trial fitment:
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ID:	116645 Irons on both sides mounted for the first time.
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ID:	116646 First test fit. Notice how wide this bumper swings away at the corners. I didn't realize it yet but this would be the beginnings of another in depth detour/ learning experience.
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ID:	116648 Tilts upward a touch but again this was just the jumping off point.
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ID:	116647 Could only get one bolt started on each side but it was someplace to start.
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    Lots of reshaping and incremental adjustments to come.

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  • JTR70
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    Thanks a lot Roy. We were expecting the rear bumper to go even quicker but as it turned out it became more of an in depth dive than I could of imagined. Will be posting that up here shortly. J.

  • roy mawbey
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    Justin the front bumper looks great now and the back one should turn out well for you. A lot of work though on those bumpers. As I have said many times lucky my car had bumpers in good condition when I bought my car 56 years ago. So they are still okay now

    Roy

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  • JTR70
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    Minor residual crash damage:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2918.jpg Views:	0 Size:	178.9 KB ID:	116630 Bottom skirt needs a little ironing out. The back end of this car has never been hit hard but it was nerfed at some point causing some minor damage to the skin
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2919.jpg Views:	0 Size:	165.4 KB ID:	116631 and to the corners of the chassis at the bumper mounts. The forward hole has been stretched outward from the impact.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2920.jpg Views:	3 Size:	200.4 KB ID:	116632 Eventually got it pounded back into shape using this square stock clamped into position as a bucking board.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2921.jpg Views:	3 Size:	199.8 KB ID:	116633 Corner of the chassis all squared back up with the new bumper irons fully bolted down for the first time.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2922.jpg Views:	3 Size:	179.3 KB ID:	116634 Similar damage on the left corner but a little lighter. Repeated the process on this side. Notice the upper strut tube mounting tabs have been pushed downward as well. Easy fixes thankfully.
    Last edited by JTR70; 06-10-2025, 09:21 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Begin rear bumper fitment
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2911.jpg Views:	0 Size:	184.4 KB ID:	116624 Original bumper (not to this car) and a new reproduction bumper iron set.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2910.jpg Views:	0 Size:	189.2 KB ID:	116625 All the threads had to be chased first.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2912.jpg Views:	0 Size:	181.3 KB ID:	116626 Initial mock up.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2913.jpg Views:	0 Size:	166.6 KB ID:	116627 A bit of shaping and rebending before these fit to the bumper much less the car itself but its a starting point.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2916.jpg Views:	0 Size:	175.2 KB ID:	116628 Turned the car around and dismounting my rotisserie rig to prep the car for its new rear bumper.

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  • JTR70
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    Last mock up
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ID:	116622 Now onto the rear bumpers' final fitment.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin

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  • JTR70
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    Finishing up the front bumper.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2887.jpg Views:	0 Size:	249.6 KB ID:	116612 Trying out this HD industrial epoxy sealer system I got from a buddy of mine. Its recommended for heavy equipment exposed to the elements. Once I confirmed that my tops coats where compatible with it we bought this system. The sealer is off white and the activator is the green stuff. Both are very high solids and mix very much like JB weld. Its direct to metal and can be brushed on or thinned for a spray gun. Mixed it will yield over two gallons. The entire underside of the body will be sealed out in this coating. Probably overkill for the life this car lead but added durability will be nice for peace of mind.
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ID:	116613 Mixed a cup of it straight with no thinner and brushed a heavy coat of it on to fill in my lead divots and other obvious imperfections. Once it cured it was block sanded level and is ready here for another overall coat of it thinned for a spray out with my gun.
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ID:	116614 Second coat of sealer was applied then followed up with these thin swatches of putty to catch the last of the rough imperfections.
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ID:	116615 Putty was blocked then sealed again then a work coat of white enamel was applied. Still some rollers to take out but this was as far as I needed to chase it. The body shop can take it the rest of the way. Reassembled a with all the trim for one final mock up.
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ID:	116616 Then one last test fit to the car itself just to make sure there was no surprises for the owner or the body shop.

    Last edited by JTR70; 06-03-2025, 10:26 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Finishing up the front bumper prep:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2886.jpg Views:	0 Size:	224.1 KB ID:	116592 New capture nut tacked and indexed over where needed.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2882.jpg Views:	0 Size:	193.3 KB ID:	116593 Now both sides are more centered in the eyelets allowing for any needed lateral adjustments with the front end.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2889.jpg Views:	0 Size:	227.7 KB ID:	116594 Now onto cleaning the underside of the remaining old paint scale and rust.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2891.jpg Views:	0 Size:	246.9 KB ID:	116595 A bit of work eventually got the entire underside clean along with the in and around areas of the mounts. While cleaning I noticed that one side of this blade was completely different color as the other half once I got past the top coat of primer. It became clear that this was two dead bumpers mated together to make one. No wonder the profile shapes were off side to side in the beginning.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2885.jpg Views:	0 Size:	192.6 KB ID:	116596 One more full mock up with the car. Best adjusted position with a good consistent reveal all the way across. First test passed. Now for the second; adding in the jewelry for its final test fitment.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 05-22-2025, 09:38 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Hey Roy, Thank you hope all is well with you! Yes, all these little repairs can side track things a bit but in the end it all has to be addressed eventually. Thanks! Justin

  • roy mawbey
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    Justin its always great to see the job being done properly as you have done with the rust hole. Its why restoration done well will always be expensive none of these repair jobs can be done in 5 minutes the hours soon clock up.

    Roy

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