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  • JTR70
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    Getting ready to make the first cut.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3120.jpg Views:	0 Size:	195.3 KB ID:	116791 Before cutting the bar it was slid inward by that one inch that was removed out of the bumper to establish where the tip of this tube needs to end up to fit and look correct.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3119.jpg Views:	0 Size:	234.4 KB ID:	116792 Same paper template procedure to locate the mounting hole as was done on the inside. By this time all the original deco holes were welded closed as they needed a reset as well.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3122.jpg Views:	0 Size:	228.4 KB ID:	116793 Commitment time. As planned the weld joint will be to the outside of the original upright mounting hole.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3123.jpg Views:	0 Size:	219.4 KB ID:	116794 Both ends of the tube mounted onto the bumper highlighting how much needs to come out...about an inch.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3177.jpg Views:	0 Size:	260.8 KB ID:	116795 That one inch section removed here but it won't go into the trash. Its being repurposed as reinforcement sleeve across the final weld joint. In the process of removing width out of it here so it will snuggly fit into the I.D. of the tube halves.

    Thanks for looking.
    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-19-2025, 09:59 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Best place to make the changes:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3115.jpg Views:	0 Size:	197.7 KB ID:	116785 Tube mounted directly to the upright as starting point.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3114.jpg Views:	0 Size:	173.5 KB ID:	116786 Not only too long now but swings very high and wide with the other end just about where it needs to be.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3113.jpg Views:	0 Size:	188.6 KB ID:	116787 Everything to in the inside of the guard is stock so this end of the tube would be established first. This 90 degree bend really dictates the uprights orientation. If its not just so the end of the tube would not reach the surface of the bumper. So as you assemble, they tell you exactly where they need to be in relation to one another. The cut and following changes would be made just to the outside of the bumperette mounting hole. With the tube cut I'll not only shorten it but I also be able to index it slightly for a flush fit to the bumper.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3116.jpg Views:	0 Size:	186.5 KB ID:	116788 This bumper was a Euro-version so it was a clean slate as far as the tube mounting holes went. To locate the hole in just the right spot this temple was taped to the tube end and once I had the tube exactly where I wanted it was peeled free from the tube and simultaneously taped to the bumper. Ready to confidently drill the hole.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3118.jpg Views:	0 Size:	240.3 KB ID:	116789 Inside of the tube bolted up snug for the first time. So far so good. You can see by this point the bumper mounting bracket has been welding back in for good. Cutting and modifying the bumper through the exhaust arches was the best place to make the changes as this bracket only conceals the weld joint but also reinforces it. Cutting the tube the in half next.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-18-2025, 07:04 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Going to have to cut the overrider tubes.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3104.jpg Views:	0 Size:	192.8 KB ID:	116778 The bars at the stock length mounted into the bumperette with the stock hole reach way too far now making the end of the bumper look stubby.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3068.jpg Views:	0 Size:	179.5 KB ID:	116779 Exploring different options like sliding the tube inward an inch...
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3112.jpg Views:	0 Size:	178.9 KB ID:	116780 but the shoulder would crowd into the shine up light "window". It wouldn't collide or touch it but would just look too busy and not correct.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3047.jpg Views:	3 Size:	224.9 KB ID:	116781 No matter how we sliced it the required modifications will require rechroming once its all over. The tubes provided are new with perfect chrome so it seemed such a waste to start cutting on these.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3107.jpg Views:	3 Size:	243.2 KB ID:	116782 What made the best logical sense was to acquire a donor pair of good originals with tired chrome for our purposes. Fortunately our buddy Matt Howard from Deluxe had a nice pair of donors for sale at just the right moment. Now the cutting can begin.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-17-2025, 05:55 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Hi Roy, I can understand wanting that small change. Those exhaust ports can get very sooty if you don't stay on top of them.

  • roy mawbey
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    Justin, my original 59 356A has no embossment for the rear light as you show in your 30/6/25 photo. Actually I had a question on the rear bumper when I went to look at my car in the late sixties.
    I was told by the previous owner my car would have had exhaust pipes going through the chrome overriders but the first owner did not want that as he disliked the way the chrome became black with exhaust smoke and he wanted anyway a two pipe sports exhaust system. All could be returned to the 59 exhaust system if I wanted but I prefer also the sports exhaust. He also advised me the first owner wanted the smaller 400mm diameter steering wheel the same as a Speedster. This has of course remained on my car.

    Roy

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  • JTR70
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    Next issue raises its head:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3078.jpg Views:	3 Size:	221.4 KB ID:	116762 Excess removed then onto shaping and heeling over the arch flange.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3069.jpg Views:	3 Size:	203.0 KB ID:	116763 Locating the best bumperette profile shape fitment against the bumper. Confirming whether the existing mount hole for it was still in the right spot.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3075.jpg Views:	3 Size:	236.5 KB ID:	116764 Bumperette hole redrilled slightly over into the needed location. Welding complete with the exhaust arch in nearly completed form. Getting dangerously close to being done on this side.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3076.jpg Views:	3 Size:	225.5 KB ID:	116765 Again the bumper was dipped at some point so all the inner surface are clean and ready to go. Applying a quick coat of sealer to these surfaces before this mount goes back on for good.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3103.jpg Views:	3 Size:	201.8 KB ID:	116766 We have both shortened and tightened the radius on this bumper so now the overrider tubes themselves became the next fitment issue. That next...

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    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-12-2025, 09:07 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Hi Roy, I meant to ask you a while back; does your car have that raised embossment for the 356B reverse light? Thank you! It was very nice to scrounge around and find a suitable donor to fabricate that bracket out of but its double edge sword as it becomes the wrong kind of positive reinforcement. I won't throw anything away as I may need it later! LOL! Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-12-2025, 08:37 PM.

  • roy mawbey
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    Justin, so much work on that bumper many would have scratched their head and given up ! I think you have done so well on that. I measured today my factory original rear bumper deco position. My 1959 car was finished March /April that year and arrived in the UK early May. The distance from the end of tip of the deco to the end of the bumper is approx 42 mm and from the end of the rubber trim that the aluminium deco rests on the the distance is 40mm.

    Because the ends are on the bend measuring is not so easy but yours looks like it is just right. Also how useful you kept that piece of scrap steel with the correct gauge to fabricate that part. You never know when these parts will be so useful !!

    Roy

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  • JTR70
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    Reestablishing the exhaust arches.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3059.jpg Views:	0 Size:	215.3 KB ID:	116746 Paper template traced out from the original shape. You can see the remains of the old arch has just been moved over that one inch.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3061.jpg Views:	3 Size:	222.7 KB ID:	116747 Trimmed back with both sides of the arch flanged over.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3060.jpg Views:	3 Size:	262.5 KB ID:	116748 Time to reinstall the bracket temporarily so I can mock up the bumperette with funnel to check for clearance.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3065.jpg Views:	3 Size:	221.6 KB ID:	116749 Initial mock up confirming ample clearance with the funnels' neck and out at the sides with the "bell".
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ID:	116750 Flipped the template over and repeated the process.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-08-2025, 09:12 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Repair patch complete. New bracket mount fabrication:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3055.jpg Views:	0 Size:	230.2 KB ID:	116740 After several rounds of hammering and filing I had chased it about as far as I could. Deco mounted for a test fit against its final shape.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3056.jpg Views:	0 Size:	223.1 KB ID:	116741 Will only need a swatch of filler to get that last 10% out. Onto the bumper mount bracket, second half of this repair.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3079.jpg Views:	3 Size:	225.9 KB ID:	116742 The brackets are a heavier 16 gauge and the thickest I had on hand was 18 gauge and that's too thin to make these out of as these brackets deal with and mount directly to those really heavy gauge bumper irons. In desperation I was onto digging deep into my scrap metal box and eventually ran across the perfect donor. This is an old deflection shield from my bench grinder. Turned out to be the right thickness, with just enough width to cut out a complete part. It even had a shouldered bend at just the right spot; it was meant to be. New part traced out here for cutting.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3081.jpg Views:	3 Size:	218.4 KB ID:	116743 Remains of the donor shield, paper template based on an original and the newly finished replacement bracket.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3082.jpg Views:	3 Size:	221.7 KB ID:	116744 All set, only some final trimming and bending on the flanges left to do and the capture nut. Looks like the originals but most importantly its thicker like the originals.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-07-2025, 09:55 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Rust repair patch:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3050.jpg Views:	0 Size:	201.9 KB ID:	116734 Began with a flat piece of 18 gauge.
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ID:	116735Gradually planishing in a soft rounded shape to match the bumper profile.
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ID:	116736 All stitched in then onto picking and filing in the final shape.
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ID:	116737 Most of this patch will always be visible from the backside so some extra work was required to get it close and as clean as possible on both sides.
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ID:	116738 Onto a quick work coat to high light the lows and high spots that still need a bit more finishing.
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-07-2025, 09:14 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Rust and old collision repair:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3044.jpg Views:	0 Size:	204.9 KB ID:	116728 Here is how a stock 356A deco now fits. Like the bumper it would had to have been cut and sectioned just like the bumper.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3049.jpg Views:	0 Size:	193.9 KB ID:	116729 By contrast here is how short that deco ends up being on a stock 356A bumper. Its no wonder the guy sent it back to me.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3025.jpg Views:	0 Size:	197.5 KB ID:	116730 To make the needed changes to the bumper all the internal mounting backets needed to come out. The previous rust and collision damage made this bumper an even more viable candidate for the application.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3027.jpg Views:	0 Size:	245.7 KB ID:	116731 The left side inner double bracket was cut apart so I could straighten the residual crash damage back out. This bumper was chemically dipped clean with only some trace amounts of old rust remaining in between the joints.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3038.jpg Views:	0 Size:	222.2 KB ID:	116732 The right side lateral mount became packed up with moisture holding muck at some point and completely rotted both it and the skin pictured here. A new bracket would have to be fabricated.

    Thanks for looking.

    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-06-2025, 10:29 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Test fitting deco:
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3039.jpg Views:	0 Size:	227.7 KB ID:	116722 Locked in the needed shape and just about ready to commit to welding up this run. 90% of that buckle from a previous old accident was removed once the excess width was removed. It was meant to be.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3029.jpg Views:	0 Size:	182.7 KB ID:	116723 Now fits neatly inside of stock A-T2 bumper.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3042.jpg Views:	0 Size:	207.0 KB ID:	116724 Promising fit so far with the center bolts lining up along with the bumperette hole. Original inside exhaust port arch remains and will hammer in the other half once all the welding is finished.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_3040.jpg Views:	0 Size:	222.7 KB ID:	116725 The lateral holes don't line up so well. This was no surprise as everything at the corners of this bumper have been shifted. The important thing was that the tip of this deco terminates in the right spot.
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    Last edited by JTR70; 07-06-2025, 10:09 PM.

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  • JTR70
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    Thank you Roy! It was a very lucky break with that deco strip, sometimes things work out that way. Definitely it all has to look factory correct when its over; both inside and out. Thanks again. Justin

  • roy mawbey
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    Justin well that turned out very well indeed for you !! A bit of luck having items to check and some parts too. I am sure as you say it will look stock when finished. Great post so well explained and super photos as usual.

    Roy



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