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**Porschinelle** · 07-08-2015, 02:56 PM

After all not a bad idea : Two historical cars for one
Per you have not told us what happened to Otto original Fuhrmann engine
Also could you confirm :
The Fetzenflieger started end 52/1953 with a Pushrod engine
Otto got a Fuhrmann engine in 1954
Did he bought it to Porsche or was it given to it by Porsche for test purpose as certain historians say ?
Thank you again your wise knowledge aprreciated
A last comment the Prototyp Museum typ 64 has more original parts than the one on display at the Porsche Stuttart Museum
And a last question : Do you know why Porsche KG did not bought for their museum, any of the Otto cars when they were offered for sale after his death ?

**JOP** · 07-08-2015, 03:50 PM

Fetzenflieger started life with VW engines that Otto had and the 4-cam was around 56/57..., do not remember details on how it was obtained.
The 4-cam is @ Prototyp.

Porsches lookalike typ 64 is a "bad" replica without any original parts from the first 3 cars.
(Even some faulty dimensions)

Prototyp type 64 is a scanned version of the old Otto Porsche but built with old parts from #2
It seems that Porsche put in a Veto NOT to buy the type 64.... Do not know why the two old guys were drifted apart!
Porsche had wanted to buy the typ 64 for a loong time but Otto didnt want to sell it.
Then in the late 80's Otto drove up to Stuttgart to give the car to Porsche BUT the guard working @ the Werk gate was not a Porsche/VW fan and just waved Otto away to take his old piece of sh.... with him!

**Porschinelle** · 07-08-2015, 04:29 PM

**JOP** · 07-08-2015, 04:47 PM

**Porschinelle** · 07-09-2015, 03:53 PM

Hi Per
Another question if you read
Did Otto owe a split window assistance bus or the one seen on the below pic belong to Bardhal ?
I suppose the one at Prototyp museum to be a recreation

**Porschinelle** · 07-09-2015, 04:00 PM

**JOP** · 07-09-2015, 04:05 PM

Otto was working with Bardahl oil company.

His busses, Fetzenflieger, cars were painted with "Bardahl" but then Otto changed it when he started selling his own brand of oil.....still bardahl as base....there was a lot of emty bardahl oil barrels at Ottos workshop.

So the bus in Hamburg is just one of many that was parked in his backyard in this configuration with Mathe oil painted and in green color.