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  • More lid work:
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    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6042.JPG Views:	0 Size:	136.5 KB ID:	109340 Had a contour issue with this right side. The upper edge/corner was a touch too low and the angle of the cowl in relation to the rest of the lid where just not matching and flowing. Both the lid and surrounding area suffered previous accident damage so it was pretty much expected.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6056.JPG Views:	0 Size:	168.6 KB ID:	109341 Subframe was relief cut to allow the edge of skin to come up and to bring the contour shapes of both cowl and the lid into better alignment.
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    Begin smoothing out and detailing the trough areas while I had the lid off
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6060.JPG Views:	0 Size:	133.1 KB ID:	109343Substructure tacked into needed position and lid remounted. Block sanding continued and the contour and fitment were much improved. I was able to thin out the filler quite a bit as it went. Always the outcome I'm looking for.
    Thanks for looking!
    Justin
    Last edited by JTR70; 07-19-2020, 08:21 AM.
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    • Justin I have learn't so much about relief cutting with all your experiences! You know before all your experiments cutting relief's it honestly never entered my head that this could solve so many problems. By the way, my rear bumper has the same configuration shape as yours the normal style overider fitted to mine is slightly reduced in width I reckon as at the bottom there is no way the plastic filler could ever have worked as the aperture of the bumper is wider there than the width. Its only the last 10mm or so the plastic can't be clipped into place . So I think now sometime in the early 60's the owner of my car exchanged the T2 overiders with normal T1 versions. Established this yesterday.

      Roy

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      • JTR70
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        Thanks a lot Roy! Yes, there is only just so many options. If the panels won't line up you'll have to either back fill it with putty, shim it off the hinges or cut it free and move it where its needed. Cutting as you can tell is my preference. As for the bumper profile plastic filler could have been used for temporary fix but it would not have been long for this world. Especially down low there bombarded by small rocks, debris and water. It would fail soon enough. I'll end up cutting that too. Justin

    • Original version of Meissen blue for this particular car matched and mixed.
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      Original paint sample just under the ID tag was just large enough for a camera match. Purchased a gallon and one extra quart of it( insurance) in single stage. Its a touch lighter when wet as you can see.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6076.JPG Views:	0 Size:	121.8 KB ID:	109398 but once it dries (paint stick) it darkens right up to the correct tint. A side comparison with the other 3 samples of Meissen I was supplied. Two of which where a closer match to the color this car originally came in. The large spray out card from Whilhoit is more of a true blue where the others lean more toward the Turquoise side.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6079.JPG Views:	0 Size:	168.2 KB ID:	109399 As you can see these two versions of Meissen are not even close. I'm not claiming that the Whilhoit sample is wrong as the car he matched this sample from probably very well came in this shade. These cars where shot in batches so I have no doubts that the color shade between runs varied. Even between the coach coach builders; Reutter Vs. Drauz and perhaps even with their particular paint suppliers. A lot of variables for sure. So when guys at a show argue which shade is correct they could both be right. The Whilhoit sample seems more like the color of your coupe Roy.

      Click image for larger version  Name:	image_63192.jpg Views:	4 Size:	127.6 KB ID:	109400 Found the original paint was still lurking under the red respray. Carefully peeled the sample free that was under the tag for future reference. A direct comparison with the paint stick.
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      More later...

      Thanks for looking!
      Justin
      Last edited by JTR70; 07-25-2020, 09:33 PM.
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      • Right quarter panel profile and wheel arch.
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        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6062.JPG Views:	0 Size:	118.4 KB ID:	109417 Also dealing with old accident damage in through here so the overall contour shape at the wheel opening had to be worked all the way up through the crown to get the set shape I needed.
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        Thanks for looking!
        Justin
        Last edited by JTR70; 07-28-2020, 08:26 AM.
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        • Rear lower valance finishing:
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ID:	109432 Jacked the rear end up to get a better shot at the lower edges to smooth and finish it out. Only light skim coats as I don't want a lot of filler under here.
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ID:	109433 First sealer and work coat pass.
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ID:	109435 Block sanding resumed. The edged lip on this side was too thin. I tried to fade it in during an earlier repair but I just couldn't leave it once I saw it in paint.
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ID:	109436 Back filling the edge about this much..
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          • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6135.JPG Views:	0 Size:	76.1 KB ID:	109438Filler strip added and weld dressed.
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            Onto beveling and shape finishing out all of the edges.
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            Thanks for stopping by!
            Justin
            Last edited by JTR70; 07-29-2020, 07:55 PM.
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            • Scott B
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              Great work and attention to detail Justin👏👏👏👏

            • JTR70
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              Appreciate it Scott! Just trying to tie up all the loose ends that will drive me nuts if I don't smooth them all out after its in final color.

          • Begin Right door jamb/well detail work:
            ​ Begin final prep on all jamb, a-pillar and door well surfaces.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6164.JPG Views:	0 Size:	141.5 KB ID:	109464test fitting the original hinge cover plate.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6174.JPG Views:	0 Size:	111.4 KB ID:	109465 This area has been releaded so the holes didn't quite align, with the bottom third hole in these upper two were really crowded out. Will have to file the surface to allow the plate to slide into alignment all the while shaping it for a nice tight fit with the edges of the plate. All the issues you don't want to discover after its all painted.
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            Last edited by JTR70; 08-02-2020, 09:28 PM.
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            • more right jamb loose ends:
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6170.JPG Views:	0 Size:	140.6 KB ID:	109469Need to also dress down this weld shoulder done by the previous shop. I still have no idea why these where removed.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6168.JPG Views:	0 Size:	123.2 KB ID:	109470 By contrast the factory seam weld on the other side cut was cut but never rewelded. Also scraped away a thick coating of solder on the top of this mount like I did on the left side. Trying to avoid the appearance of thick and choking coats of material when looking down into these areas when its all over.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6178.JPG Views:	0 Size:	159.7 KB ID:	109471rewelded and dressed and leaded surface filed for cover plate clearance.
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              Cover plate can now be fully mounted.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6177.JPG Views:	0 Size:	119.0 KB ID:	109473 Have some fine finishing and adding along this corner yet but had to get the plate mounted and set first.
              Last edited by JTR70; 08-02-2020, 09:46 PM.
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              • Jamb finishing continued:
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                Fine detail finishing on the lock post shapes.

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                Then began shaping the edges of the rocker panel and block sanding the general surface. Rotated work between all these different areas as putty was applied to keep it moving. Lots going on all at once.
                Thanks for looking!
                Justin
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                • Hi Justin
                  Great detail work on this 'D'. Just an observation/question.
                  Did 1959 A's have that forward hole? I was of the opinion that it was a later car detail that carried a tube (maybe a drain).
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                  Keep up the great work.
                  Regards
                  Drew
                  Last edited by Drew.s; 08-08-2020, 09:09 AM.

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                  • JTR70
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                    Good catch on that one Drew. As you know all the new repop sheet metal is usually set up for a B/C car. That is the hole for the metal drain tube on a later car. It was an oversight on my part as I should have filled it in before I installed it. My buddy ha s seen this post and wants it filled so that's in the works here shortly. Thanks for keeping me straight. Justin

                • Finishing out right door jamb work .
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ID:	109554 One last pass of putty to get the remaining divots and blemishes out after an initial test coat and block sand.
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ID:	109555 Same deal for the striker post. Just when you think your done you find those last few nicks or divots in the surface after a test coat.
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ID:	109556 Then it was onto smoothing out the door side of things.
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ID:	109557 Then the forward areas. Extra care taken with all the surfaces that can be clearly seen when the door is opened.
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ID:	109558 Another round of sealer and paint. I could obsess more but I think I am all but done except for a final finish sanding pass.
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                  • More test coats in the cars final color
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                    Final A pillar areas all set too. It was nice checking a string of areas off my finished list. The door well area will be shot one more time after I fill in that unauthorized hole but I wanted to begin adding the color now to ensure thorough coverage in and around all of those surface areas down in there.
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ID:	109564Have a few small areas to address but it won't take much.

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                    • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6224.JPG Views:	0 Size:	108.8 KB ID:	109567 Sent this photo to my buddy to give him a glimpse of what his cars final color combination is going to look like.
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6225.JPG Views:	0 Size:	97.7 KB ID:	109568 I really like it and it should really pop when its all done.
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6219.JPG Views:	0 Size:	145.1 KB ID:	109571Needed to change gears so I decided to get the front bumper in final paint. Mounted on my stand here to shoot the inside first.
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                      Taking extra care to ensure all the nooks and crannies got a good coat of color first.
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                      Thanks for looking!
                      Justin
                      Last edited by JTR70; 08-15-2020, 08:26 PM.
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                      • Front bumper in final finish:
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                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6228.JPG Views:	0 Size:	131.6 KB ID:	109575 I'll be renting a spray booth to shoot the body but small parts like this I can handle here. I'll be stressed enough ensuring it all goes right the day the body is shot and having not to deal with small peripheral parts like this will make that session slightly less frantic.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6229.JPG Views:	0 Size:	101.0 KB ID:	109576 So far so good. My buddy wants a final finish with some orange peel, not a glass finish so I don't have the luxury of color sanding out dry spots, runs, excessive lint and the like so the final application has to be pretty good right from the start.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_6267.JPG Views:	0 Size:	131.3 KB ID:	109577 Front bumper complete. Nice to have something in the done column but finished parts are always a magnet for damage after the fact so I've got to stash this away safely while I finish the rest of the car out. Onto the next deal.

                        Thanks for looking!

                        Justin
                        Last edited by JTR70; 08-16-2020, 09:51 PM.
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                        • Justin sorted the log in situation it was my fault! The last stages of this work on the D look great, Its going to be a great car!
                          Roy

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                          • JTR70
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                            Hey Roy, Glad to see you got it figured out! Well, will see what happens but thank you for all the great messages of support along the way my friend.
                            Justin
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