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  • Well the saga continues….. Since the last laser post, the Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have been playing catch 22 with me. Neither has ever destroyed a laser device before, and can’t decide how. To make things worse I am stuck in the middle. CBP needs a form, FDA does not know who fills it out. Then Good old Washington State EPA requires a license for the recycler. No one knows what is going on. The welder has a water cooler, and a refrigeration system. When I told the FDA the unit contained dihydrogenmonxide DHMO (water H2O) and a HFC 409 and their head exploded. The EPA and FDA spun up and can not decide what to do. CBP treats it like a bad batch of apples but won’t issue some release form to FDA with out a HAZMAT determination. Today I am still waiting for CBP form 4647..

    Can this get worse??? Why sure

    The manufacturer says they will replace the unit under warranty and has shipped the new one door to odor from the factory. (They exported it before it was approved for entry into the USA). That is good if they really did. I finally convinced the vendor, the customs detention and failed inspection was on just my machine only, not all of them. They played stupid until the last minute until I sent a threat to have them banned in the USA for non compliance to the CFR, and be put on the no entry list. Nice to be retired navy, and have an Admiral in charge of Radiation health (CDRH). So maybe new machine, dingers crossed
    Then I sent the customs forms to AMREX, asking for an insurance refund on the purchase. They went to eBay with a dispute, eBay then held the amount from the vendor. Then eBay rejected the dispute and still have not released the funds. So the Manufacturer will not release the warranty replacement from bond until it clears. 10 calls and emails to AMERX and eBay can not seem to clear the dispute. My account shows no disputes, vendors says still pending.. So I broke the welding unit down into several piles of parts. Laser stuff, power stuff, cooler stuff, computer stuff, preparing for disposal. Several piles all covered by different state recycling laws.
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    On a more positive note, this machine is amazing, the welds, cleaning, cutting etc are like the videos. It take a couple hours to to figure it out. The chinglish manuals are not easy, but after you have gone over them 4-5 it starts to make sense. It’s just like MiG, except the wire feeder pushes the gun, and the nozzle needs to rough the material being welded, not as a ground but to keep the beam at the weld and not the shop. We only got a few hours on it before I had to brake it down. Welds 0.5mm wide in 18 ga steel, spot welds like a pro, cuts up to 10mm thick, cleans paint, dirt and corrosion with ease. Does heat the metal up some, but no more that a car in the sun in the summer. the YouTube videos ate real, takes some practice but works. Uses Nitrogen to blow on the lenses to keep them clean when cutting . I will try clean dry air when the next one arrives.

    enough for now, cross your fingers, I may get through this yet.

    Pushed around since 1966.

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    • JTR70
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      Wishing you a positive out come on this in the new year John. This is a tough one to swallow for sure. On an another note can you post a detailed photo of the spot welds you are able to produce?

  • Welder saga continues. Good news, the E-mail this morning says the warranty replacement welder is ready to release and delivery. 90% confident its here, until I lay my hands on it I will remain skeptical. Seaman Laser LLC in China says it here in the bond warehouse, a will be delivered shortly. Then I get to start all over again, but with no FDA an its through customs. With 150 emails back an forth with the manufacture over the summer I must say they are very good, but the language barrier was difficult. Once I got the factory to understand that only MY UNIT failed the customs inspection not all of them the fog lifted. Also the customs entry form they sent, to clear US customs entry was not filled out correctly and did not list the required model an part number, ( it just said "LASER WELDER") . That paperwork error was what triggered the incoming entry FDA inspection, that cascaded into a bunch of other regulations and more misery. It was their fault in the beginning. It was advertised with a 5 year warranty, and they say they are making good on it. I remain skeptical.

    The FDA and US customs are in a catch 22 on the forms and procedures. Seems they have conflicting requirements. Neither has destroyed one before and can not seem to get all the paperwork together. I did my part, on time, but finding a Washington state license recycle facility that can take refrigerants, electronics, and dihydrogenmonxide (H2O) in the same unit does not exist, and no one wants customs and border protection (CBP) on their property for some reason. Anyway they say next week they will have a plan. FDA and CBP have decided to destroy it here on sight, to avoid the state ecology regulations. That is a good thing,

    Anyway I removed the RACUS fiber laser source, from the rest of the welder (photo below). That separated the FDA regulate component from the rest of the State EPA regulated components. That allows the FDA to inspect it, complete a form for customs and certify it destroyed. Now I was very careful while destroying this machine. If they don't take any parts away with them, Justin may have a pending deal in the works. In spite of all the BS an worry it has cause, this is a great welder and it does all the stuff in the YouTube videos just like they show. I was a little skeptical in the beginning but this thing is really cool.


    justin…. Your spot weld photos, these were the first few I tried, various power and sweep rate and time settings .left side is top side, right is the bottom. Most are .035 ~ .075 seconds of time longest was 1 second. Power between 20-35 watts. about 4-5” off the metal, point and shoot. Pretty easy.
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    Last edited by Jbrooks; 01-15-2025, 06:16 AM.
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    • Been a couple months since I up dated the laser saga. CDRH / FDA field inspector came out last month and determined the machine was destroyed. Field inspectors submitted the report stating such, Finally. The Seaman CNC ( eBay goldcnc) claims to have shipped a warranty replacement, “ door to door “ back in December. They say it arrived in Feb. All last month it was being trucked to me. Now they have received a “customs invoice” Delayed delivery. one delay after another, I might be being played. But the eBay price has dropped to 1/3 of original price. I have another 356 guy that bought one from them, it arrived a few weeks ago.
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      but I do have finally good news on the laser. The FDA and CBP customs entry headaches are over. It’s out of customs detention, officially destroyed, serial number tag removed! This week I spent a couple days repairing cut wires, reinstalling the computers and laser source and yesterday afternoon we plugged it in and filled the cooler with water. After 4 months I might be back in business. Thank god for google translate, we do not have a wiring diagram, only a chinglish manual.
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      I also stumbled across a local fabricator a couple miles away. Another friend ask me to go over and look at his laser cleaner. He could be my clone. Just like me, but 30 years younger, but retired navy officer, same career path, same specialty designator, even a couple of the same jobs. Jess Halfacre at Halfacre Fabrications has a YouTube channel and is building a 57 Chevy from scratch. Very well tooled, not afraid to try or buy something and self taught . Has Lathe, Bridgeport, welders, fab table, bead rollers, he has everything. He a 72” 20 ton press brake, with a digital readout and a laser guide and its numerical Controled. I did not even know they made those. Excellent panel beater fantastic welder, We will use the my laser on the 57 and adapt the cutting head to his plasma table. Take a look at he YouTube channel watch and like his videos.



      thanks for looking
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      • Still no updated status on the warranty replacement, beginning to think I have been scammed, but I still can get eBay back involved. The old unit is back together, seems to work, got 20 minutes out of it cleaning, befor get a contaminated lens from the smoke blowback and exploded a protective lens. Had a Loud pop and we’re done. Have not got too deep into it yet, but it welded and cleaned fine….

        Did a wheel cleaning for the 56 coupe. Another thing misplaced by the previous IDIOT. Took about 10 minutes to bare metal. The black looking carbon coated area is where I have burned off the original paint. Wipes off with a soft brush. Celeste bought a used wheel from eBay, typical not even cleaned before shipping, the inside was coated with dry grease and dirt. The laser made quick work of the mess.
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        • Wheel and carb day. Got the spare wheel primed and painted. A couple hours in the oven between coats worked fine. Laser got the inside so clean, just a wipe with scotch bright brite and shoot. Couple hours at 150 between coats, works well.
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          Nothing special, but did run into an interesting Zenith float valve. The new kit has an 18mm long vice a 15mm stock. Actually a good thing I did not have to add the usual 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 extra shim stack under the 1.5mm seal washer to get the float set. I put the carb on the bench a the original valve was about 3mm high using the P-Tool. New one fell right on the mark. Drained the bowel exactly 50ml. Also these carbs are very old, grey/silver floats, still had the rivets in the top gasket.
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