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[Porschinelle]

That's all for to day
I am off the next three days to attend the Porsche 914 France Club AGM in Lyon
Next Monday I will continue with the last known race of Dapferle the June 1954 Ostereich Alpenhahrt a race quite well documented

[356]

Thank you for the information on the Dennenhaur. There are just so many Pre-A styling ques I would have sworn it to be a first cousin.

Just wonderful Gerard, the historical education you bring to this site is what mainly keeps me coming back.
~Vance

Ran across this really cool Outlaw Dennenhaur or maybe its something else?

[Porschinelle]

Answer to your below quote


You were not far
This car is not a real Dannenhauer & Strauss as the one below

but a recent tribute built between 2010/2011 by a former B.B.T. (a Belgium Company who are one of he largest VW and Porsche repro parts maker and distributor in the world) coachbuilder who is now running its own business
You were lucky finding pics of this car that I saw in real in 2011 during a visit I made with my friend Bruno in September 2011 at the BBT headquarter in Belgium
As you may see on the below pic at that time the car was not completely finish

This year the car was displayed at the Hessich Oldendorp meeting in Germany

[Porschinelle]

Back to Paul Ernst Strahle "dapferle"

To start with return on the 1953 Osterreiche Alpenfhart when dapferle had still a VW engine as I found several new pics






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On the below pic you may see that in 1953 Dapferle already had 356 Porsche aluminium drum brakes

[Porschinelle]

Here the pcs who did not post correctly
First the Porsche brakes

Dapferle just about to start the race

[Porschinelle]

Sorry I did a mistake Ziel in German mean arrival not start (abfahrt)
Therefore, on the above pic, Dapferle is just about to finish the 1953 editionat the 5th place overall

[Porschinelle]

Now return on the 1954 Mille Miglia
I found 2 pics printed by Schucco on the box of their scale model



As you may see, one of this pic represent Dapferle before the race start, still wearing its original entry number 007

Found also another pic during the race

[Porschinelle]

So one month after the 1000 Miglia race (end of June 1954) Paul Ernst Strahle enter dapferle into the International Osterreiche Alpenfahrt rallye
He did quite well finishing second overall behind the Denzel de Wolfgang Denzel himself

Wolofgang Denzel overall winner

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In November 1954 Dapferle was entered into the Tour de Belgique
Paul Ernst finish again 2nd overall
From 1955 and onwards Paul Ernst Strahle no longer raced Dapferle except in November 1955 where this car was again entered into the Tour de Belgique
For me it was the last race
No pictures of both 1954 and 1955 Tour de Belgique
If somebody has one to post he is welcome

Before to close the Dapferle history remain one mystery on which I would like to have Henk expertise
Nowadays in many many historical revivals (like the Solitude revival) or displays meetings such as Essich Oldendorp (one every 4 years) or Bad Camberg (also one every 4 years in alterna

[Porschinelle]

In November 1954 Dapferle was entered into the Tour de Belgique
Paul Ernst finish again 2nd overall
From 1955 and onwards Paul Ernst Strahle no longer raced Dapferle except in November 1955 where this car was again entered into the Tour de Belgique
For me it was the last race
No pictures of both 1954 and 1955 Tour de Belgique
If somebody has one to post he is welcome

Before to close the Dapferle history remain one mystery on which I would like to have Henk expertise
Nowadays in many many historical revivals (like the Solitude revival) or displays meetings such as Essich Oldendorp (one every 4 years) or Bad Camberg (also one every 4 years in alternance with Essich) a VW split beetle is presented as the former Strahle Dapferle
As this year in Essich Oldendorp

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With a fantaisy plate VN V1 H that Dapferle never wore




This time one of the Solitude revival( I don't know the year)
with the original Strahle plate A on W 57-3368


and also this one showing Paul Ernst Strahle with his dapferle before his death ie before 2010 with af=gain nthe correct plate number

[Porschinelle]

So question for Henk
Are these 2 cars the same car ?
If so is it the real car or a simple reconstruction ?
What worry me is that the car displayed to day has many differences with the original car
Bumper at the back when Dapferle with the Porshe engine had no bumper

No handles on each side of the engine lid as evident on this pic



Uncorrect boot handle (standard handle eand not thye L shape before 1949)


and utmost a luxury aluminium insert in the windscreen rubber seal when Dapferle never had that

[Porschinelle]

By searching something else I discover that Paul Ernst Strahle first race with Dapferle was not the 1953 Alpenfahrt but the 1952 one

I suppose he did not did well as his biography don't mention this race
Sompe more interesting pics found at the 1952 edition
On this one you clearly see the co-pilot sitting on the back bumper of a VW beetle with the hands on the side handles


I also co-pilots of several other cars in crazy position





and even the co-pilot of this french dyna Panhard cabriolet hanging outside the car as if it was on a motorbyke side car

[Henk Vasmel]

I'll pick up the gauntlet. To start with, I don't know whether it is the original or not, but with 20 million (or more) Beetles built, a lot is possible. There are some sources I can investigate and the pictures provide a lot of detail.

Don't worry about the license plate. The original cannot be used on the road anymore, so a modern one needs to be used. I think that it is a nice detail to have selected this number which really points to the original owner.
For shows etc. using the old one is fine again.

[Henk Vasmel]

First: the chassis number I gave before, 1-075282, as a possible number for Dapferle appears to be an early 1948 number. Since it was a second-hand car, that is well possible. However, the recent Dapferle has those two ventilation inlets in the front sides. These were only used in 1951. The Schuco model you showed has them too, yet none of the original pictures show them. For me that is a strong indication that the body is not original. Since Beetles are not monocoques, it is easy to put a different body on an original chassis, so that is still possible. I would not know how to recognize a platform in the pictures available, so this requires a closer look at the actual car.