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  • template for most inboard panel.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7313.JPG Views:	0 Size:	148.9 KB ID:	111110 Getting it trimmed to size for better fitment as it goes
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7315.JPG Views:	0 Size:	138.8 KB ID:	111111 Highlighting how that main torsion tube anchor point that I had to cut past will layer over the eventual section made from this paper template.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7316.JPG Views:	0 Size:	181.8 KB ID:	111112 I have this piece soaking in acid and as its getting cleaner its revealing how thin and compromised it actually is now. This piece was at least 16 gauge to begin with so I may have to fabricate this section from scratch as well.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	image_64273.jpg Views:	3 Size:	153.9 KB ID:	111113 I wanted to end up with as much as much as full piece as possible so I had to peel back just a little more of this outer section to expose the top of this panel. As you can see it ends just under this section I lifted back.
    Click image for larger version  Name:	image_64274.jpg Views:	3 Size:	156.3 KB ID:	111114 Finally touched bottom here and will not have to cut back any further. I'm switching gears for the moment and will be installing the interior wall and flange section first. I want a clear shot at the backside of it to be able to work the weld joint after its installed. This is something I remembered I wished I had done on the other side. Its been cut and removed here but I do have to finish cleaning the remains of it down in the corner.
    Last edited by JTR70; 04-04-2021, 08:13 PM.
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    • Fabricating new inner wall/corner section.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7328.JPG Views:	0 Size:	143.0 KB ID:	111116 Adding the rounded corner profile needed.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7329.JPG Views:	0 Size:	132.3 KB ID:	111117 Corner welded up and now shrinking in the needed turn at the end of the flange.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7331.JPG Views:	0 Size:	108.9 KB ID:	111118 One of many test fits as it went.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7332.JPG Views:	0 Size:	122.6 KB ID:	111119 Just about ready for a final trim.
      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7333.JPG Views:	0 Size:	106.0 KB ID:	111120 But before I could do that I had to go back to the unpleasant chore of cleaning out this corner. The kick panel flange runs under the lateral corner flange and as its rusted out too now was the time to remove what needs replacing.
      Last edited by JTR70; 04-04-2021, 08:32 PM.
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      • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7334.JPG Views:	0 Size:	131.7 KB ID:	111122 Remains finally cleaned out.
        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7335.JPG Views:	0 Size:	133.6 KB ID:	111123 Okay, now I've touched bottom in this corner. WHEW!
        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7336.JPG Views:	0 Size:	151.1 KB ID:	111124 Slowly trimming the new piece to final shape. Remnant flange section installed to establish the correct height needed for the eventual lap joint at the front there.
        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7341.JPG Views:	0 Size:	125.6 KB ID:	111125 One final test mock up with what I have to make sure its all going to fit right.
        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7339.JPG Views:	0 Size:	122.8 KB ID:	111126 Trimmed and finally tacked in. The corner flange will be left loos for now so I can slide the eventual kick panel flange replacement underneath it.
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ID:	111128 Moved from paper to steel.
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ID:	111129 This standard flange repair section is a little short for this repair so I'll have add a strip on to increase its reach.
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ID:	111130 Some torch heat and a wire brush was used to clean up the rust and scale as best as I can.
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ID:	111131 finished seam welding the inner wall and added the needed strip to this next repair section.
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ID:	111132 Installing this piece next. This photo shows exactly why I wanted get the interior wall section in first.

          Thanks for looking!
          Justin

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          • Nice bit of work there Justin. So important to get the sequence correct.

            Roy

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            • JTR70
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              Thank you Roy, Yes, life is a lot more enjoyable if you can avoid locking yourself out by keeping the sequences straight.

          • Most inner flange panel installed.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7400.JPG Views:	0 Size:	140.9 KB ID:	111151 Working outward from here.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7401.JPG Views:	0 Size:	150.2 KB ID:	111152 Two vertical walls down with three more layers to go.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7402.JPG Views:	0 Size:	149.2 KB ID:	111153 Now its onto this heavy gauge flange that is actually part of the torsion tubes end housing/face here.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7403.JPG Views:	0 Size:	159.1 KB ID:	111154 As you can see after some time in the acid bath its too thin and compromised to reinstall.
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7404.JPG Views:	0 Size:	129.6 KB ID:	111155 Rummaging through my scrap pile for a nice piece of heavier 16 gauge.
            Last edited by JTR70; 04-07-2021, 08:38 PM.
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            • Justin - this brings back so many memories for me - not all pleasant. You will be going through a few cut off discs for a while. Keep your safety glasses and gloves on. I think this section of my car was the first of a few times I got some metal slivers in the eye. A magnet doesn’t always work and I did have to make one trip to the hospital to get it pulled out - by a very attractive and competent nurse so not all that bad a trip. This is not the time to be anywhere near a hospital. Stay safe Scott
              1960 356B T5 - under major resurrection.
              356 Registry main thread;
              http://forum.porsche356registry.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35854
              1968 912 - running like a scalded cat.

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              • JTR70
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                Thanks a lot Scott. You know when I was a younger man (when we think we are all invincible) I'd cut and grind metal without protection all the time. Young and stupid. Now that I'm older I'm very conscious and protective about my sight, hearing and lungs. Anytime the metal flies these days I always take the time to put on a face shield, headphones and an old paint respirator. I was having issues 10 years ago and realized I shouldn't be breathing in the small particulate
                filaments from the grinding wheels as they are being consumed. I find the paper masks ineffective as I my lungs would still tickle and I'd get a cough later that night. A paint respirator turns the trick for me...And yes, gloves are a good idea too. Things happen quick and before you realize it you're bleeding.
                Last edited by JTR70; 04-10-2021, 06:13 PM.

            • New torsion housing lower flange section:
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7405.JPG Views:	0 Size:	155.4 KB ID:	111162 Rounded up a nice little strip of 16 gauge. Basic Lower flange in at this point.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7406.JPG Views:	0 Size:	148.6 KB ID:	111163 To get the right flange profile shape I had to relief cut it and fold it individually. Planning my next cuts for shaping here. I knew I was going to come a little short on that lower tip but I figured I'd add it back in later.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7407.JPG Views:	0 Size:	120.0 KB ID:	111164 Cutting and rolling in the needed shape. Slowly getting there.
              Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7408.JPG Views:	0 Size:	137.7 KB ID:	111165 As expected I came up a little short on that neck section so I'll just add a small piece onto the end of it.
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              Section added now completing my little bird shape. Some minor shape tweaking will still be needed as its welded in but its close enough to the original section to proceed. 16 gauge is much more involved to work with, especially tiny shapes like this. You can't cut it with hand shears nor can you bend it with any accuracy without torch heat.
              Last edited by JTR70; 04-10-2021, 06:48 PM.
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              • Repair of layer #2 installed.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7410.JPG Views:	0 Size:	158.1 KB ID:	111168 Thought I was ready but I still had some more fine trimming and tweaking to do before it was ready to tack. Also had to peel a strip of layers 3&4 to give me a clean shot at the weld joint.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7411.JPG Views:	0 Size:	163.0 KB ID:	111169 All but ready. I turned the lower flange a little too tight and had to relax it before I could tack weld.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7418.JPG Views:	0 Size:	156.6 KB ID:	111170 All welded in..,finally.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7417.JPG Views:	0 Size:	126.6 KB ID:	111171 Through all the bending shaping I had issues trying to get this piece to run consistent down the line while also fitting up where I needed it to. Thankfully in the end, it all lined up.
                Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7420.JPG Views:	0 Size:	146.1 KB ID:	111172 Dressing the welds and then its onto layer #3. Back to a much nicer to work with 18 gauge.
                Thanks for looking!

                Justin
                Last edited by JTR70; 04-10-2021, 07:13 PM.
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                • Layer #3 install
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                  This is the lower gusset section that bridges across the saddle profile in the flange. Templating off of the remains of the left side and need only to flip the paper over for a right side application.
                  Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7423.JPG Views:	0 Size:	146.6 KB ID:	111176 Flange has a swoopy profile for the saddle area it bridges.
                  Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7425.JPG Views:	0 Size:	144.7 KB ID:	111177 Onto metal. Relief cut the flange for the needed curve in its profile. I'll just back fill that with weld to attach it further to the new torsion housing flange.
                  Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7426.JPG Views:	0 Size:	129.6 KB ID:	111178 New piece ready to go.
                  Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7427.JPG Views:	0 Size:	135.5 KB ID:	111179 Number 3 layer all welded in.
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                  • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7429.JPG Views:	0 Size:	148.1 KB ID:	111181 Tempting to make this gusset a little longer but that's not the way it came.
                    Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7430.JPG Views:	0 Size:	141.2 KB ID:	111182 Dressing the welds smooth next. Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7431.JPG Views:	0 Size:	147.2 KB ID:	111183 Then its onto layer #4. BTW: starting to hit those twisted off bolts with some heat before I plug weld some nuts on for removal. Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7432.JPG Views:	0 Size:	143.9 KB ID:	111184 This bottom section again is the remains from the right side and is placed on here backwards for the photo. Still thankful that the right side was intact enough for a reference. Working on this final wall section next.

                    Thanks for looking!
                    Justin
                    Last edited by JTR70; 04-11-2021, 06:34 AM.
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                    • Nice work on the jigsaw puzzle!! Having a rotisserie and flipping the car upside down really aids in getting at this tricky mess. Save them all!!!! Made by hand again!
                      1960 356B T5 - under major resurrection.
                      356 Registry main thread;
                      http://forum.porsche356registry.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35854
                      1968 912 - running like a scalded cat.

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                      • JTR70
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                        Thanks Scott. Could not imagine doing this repair on my back, my patience would wear thin and I'd probably end up fish plating one new section in there and calling it good. You've to be able to at least flip it to one side to have a decent shot at it.

                    • Quick detour before installing vertical wall #4
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7433.JPG Views:	0 Size:	153.3 KB ID:	111198 This lower cap which I've designated #5 for explanation purposes needs to go on ahead of the final vertical wall because its flange lap joints over top of this section.
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ID:	111199 You can see the remains of this lap joint in the lower right. Before I can install this new cap I'll have to repair the hole in the heater tube and seal the cavity as best as I can.
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ID:	111200 Large hole and several small pin holes back filled. Gas welding really turns the trick here for rusty thin old metal.
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ID:	111201 Cavity slathered in epoxy and sealed as best as I can.
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ID:	111202 New cap section made of heavier gauge sheet welded.
                      Last edited by JTR70; 04-16-2021, 08:13 PM.
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                      • Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7441.JPG Views:	0 Size:	140.4 KB ID:	111204 Original section with the "window" I cut out laid over to top to show it was built.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7439.JPG Views:	0 Size:	123.4 KB ID:	111205 Outer skin section that lap joints over top that newly installed #5 cap.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7443.JPG Views:	0 Size:	123.6 KB ID:	111206 Back onto paper templates for the final vertical wall section.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7445.JPG Views:	0 Size:	122.8 KB ID:	111207 New rough cut 18 gauge section.
                        Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7447.JPG Views:	0 Size:	136.6 KB ID:	111208 My hammer form placement set and now bolted down. Beating in the relief shape next.

                        Thanks for looking!
                        Justin
                        Last edited by JTR70; 04-16-2021, 08:27 PM.
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                        • Hammer forming relief shape into vertical wall section #4
                          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7448.JPG Views:	0 Size:	144.1 KB ID:	111223 Began forming it cold and went as far as I could before adding in the heat. This being 18 gauge I could only go so far.
                          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7456.JPG Views:	0 Size:	140.6 KB ID:	111224 After several laps and rounds of heat I finally had the relief shape I was after.
                          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7458.JPG Views:	0 Size:	152.2 KB ID:	111225 This tube originally sat off to the lower side of the relief shape.
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                          To determine where that is exactly , this new panel is now roughly trimmed along its top (Or the bottom in this shot) and is in the process of rough fitment to the chassis.
                          Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_7460.JPG Views:	0 Size:	144.7 KB ID:	111227 Once the new panel is set into its final position. The tube section clamped to the main run will tell me where the final opening needs to be.
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