Abarth Carrera GTL

[Porschinelle]

Hi Paul

As Vance has not yet answered your question I may help

The pic posted by Vance was taken September 4th 2016 during the 4th edition of the "Concours d'Elegance" organised by Patrick Peter at the Chantilly castle near Paris

2 other pics taken this same day

[Paolo]

Hi Vance,
The photo at #42060 is very interesting. Can you provide year and location? Thanks!
Paul

[356]

I think its beautiful Gerard but yes, a real shame if someone is trying to commit a fraud with it.
~Vance

[Porschinelle]

Hi Vance

Nice car but unfortunately a recent total reconstruction that the owner try to present as the ex Robert Buchet 1002
Indeed a real fake as you will see by reading pages 23-24 and 25 th of this same topic

[356]

[Porschinelle]

Thanks Paul for that clear explanation
As you say there is always something new to learn about these 20 marvellous cars

[Paolo]

GTL#1013 is currently in private hands, the owner is in California.
While owned by the factory, it always carried license plate no. S-AU893.
GTL#1018 is owned by Porsche and lives in their museum. During its competitive days it carried license plate no. S-NR 938 but was also seen with license plate no. S-NR 933.
Interesting observation: At Le Mans in 1962; GTL#1018 (race number 34)carried license plate number 938 on its rear engine cover but license plate number 933 on its front nose!
Just when you think there may be some logic to the GTL's history...., something unexplainable happens!
Cheers for now,
Paul

[Porschinelle]

Thanks Paul

I knew that 1013 and 1018 were both work cars
I am wrong to believe that 1013 belong to day to the Porsche Stuttgart museum ?
If so why the change of plate number ?
May be both numbers belong to Porsche and they moved the plates from one car to the other ?

[Paolo]

[Porschinelle]

1013 had also the back changed to round lights when it was campaigned in the US

[Porschinelle]

Please amend what I wrote above It was the 1962 Targa Florio not 60

This same car at this same race


Found also this model car of 1018 at the 1962 Targa Florio


Interesting that in 1962 1018 had 356 Tail lights at the back changed to round lights when the car was in the US

[Porschinelle]

Hermann/Linge 6th overall with 1018 at the 1960 Targa Florio

[Porschinelle]

If I am right the second Abarth plate number S NR 938 is 1013 to day at the Stuttgart Porsche museum

1013 driven nby Wester/Holbert finish 9th the 1963 Sebring 12 hours

1018 (Barth/Linge) finish 10th

[Porschinelle]

Hi Andrew

Fantastic color photo I have never seen before
Have you an idea of :
where ?
When ?
who ?
Obviously this pic has been taken somewhere in Italy (cf the Campari publicity on the wall, the numerous Fiat Abarth 600 and the blue Fiat Abarth behind the Abarth Carrera GT)
According to the start number 354 hand pinted on the door it is not any of the Targa Florio editions ( limited to around 150 cars max)
If you have no idea I suggest that you post this pic on the French Autodiva forum dedicated to the Abarth Carrera GTL where specialists of this car such as Lutz Montowski will find it for us
As far as I know I believe the Abarth to be the ex-factory car 1018 (cf the registration plate S AU 893)
1018 was raced in the 1963 and 1964 Sebring 12 hours and also at Laguna Seca

[Type550]