Engine room details

[Bruno356]

Hi John
on my car there are only two on each side because the rear lower part from the engine bay is new ... but without the straps. That was my intention to start this topic. I don't know where and how much of this straps are mounted ( see post #1)


What I have is this




The straps are 15 mm wide and the leggs each 20 mm

What we still miss now are the straps (position and how much) on the rear side.

I found this on the porsche356registry.
Maybe anybody know Cliff or is registered bei porsche 356 registry and can send a PM







Bruno

[John Pierce]

Bruno,

Nice metal fabrication! Looks like a good class that you took.

Was hoping to get some pictures of your engine tray to see the placement of tabs: location, number, etc. How much space is there between the wall and the tab for the thickness of the insulation? What is the size of the tab?

Thanks.

John

[Bruno356]

Wow! That's interesting Bruce. Can you post any pictures of the tabs in position (i.e. location and number)? About how far from the vertical wall were they placed? Have you been asked to put new ones when you do your restorations? Looking back at the pictures of the engine bay when I bought the car I find that the surround was a replacement. Sorry about the misinformation! Bruno, can you post more pictures of all the tab positions?

That Stoddard replacement is pretty pricey!!

Thanks.

John

No Problem about the "misinformation". It's my fault because I did no pictures when i startet with this work. But I think it would be difficult to see this details on 30 year old Polaroids

Bruno

[Bruno356]

Ouch, that was high priced!
Then you can build your 356 as the Light weight version
a litle noisier but a Racer
With you name Bruno then you must be the one visiting Anders metal meting in DK?
And been written about...was it a front fender ?
Cheers

Yes it's me
The "Metal Meets"by Anders in Denmark were great. Cool guys and I learned a lot. I built (started there) fenders and door pannel.
Were you there ?

Bruno

[John Pierce]

Wow! That's interesting Bruce. Can you post any pictures of the tabs in position (i.e. location and number)? About how far from the vertical wall were they placed? Have you been asked to put new ones when you do your restorations? Looking back at the pictures of the engine bay when I bought the car I find that the surround was a replacement. Sorry about the misinformation! Bruno, can you post more pictures of all the tab positions?

That Stoddard replacement is pretty pricey!!

Thanks.

John

[JOP]

Ouch, that was high priced!
Then you can build your 356 as the Light weight version
a litle noisier but a Racer
With you name Bruno then you must be the one visiting Anders metal meting in DK?
And been written about...was it a front fender ?
Cheers

[Bruno356]

Karmann T-6 models used the short, stout tabs in the engine bay for this:
https://www.stoddard.com/nla-551-981-08.html.html

And they (stout tabs is the engl. name?) are arranged like that?



The "Engine Compartment Sound Insulation Kit" from Stoddard is not a cheap thing .

Thank you

Bruno

[bbspdstr]

Karmann T-6 models used the short, stout tabs in the engine bay for this:

https://www.stoddard.com/nla-551-981-08.html.html

[Don C]

Looking good John!

[John Pierce]

My car was made by the Karmann Karosserie and the engine bay was original when I repaired it.

[Bruno356]

There are no tabs along the sides. I don't know what those angle pieces are for. Below are some pictures of my completed engine bay. HTH. John



OK! Thank's for the pictures. You did it very nice!

Maybe I still find a picture of a karmann notchback BT6 engine bay for the (original) reconstruction, or I remove all ...

Thank you very much
Bruno

[John Pierce]

Hi,

There are no tabs along the sides. I don't know what those angle pieces are for. Below are some pictures of my completed engine bay. HTH. John

[Bruno356]

Hi Bruno,

The thin metal strips are used throughout the car to hold the wiring harness in place. I made new strips and replaced all of mine as with the bending and unbending over time the metal became weak and split. Below is a picture of the replacement panel I made for the rear of the engine bay with the tabs spot welded on.




From Bruce Baker: The inner rear hole is there merely for wrench access to the inner nuts for the rear light units for 356 A, B and C and covered with a rubber plug. The later A models with US bumpers had a hole in the center of the plug so the angled support tubes for the guards could be sealed with some fitment flexibility through similar sized holes in the outer body. Electrical wires do not go through these holes. Cut a hole in the covering insulation for access to rubber plug, i.e.; slightly bigger in diameter than the plug. The wires for the rear lights come from underneath the rear engine bay 'tray' and if an original wiring harness is being re-installed, that last transverse section of wiring will likely be brittle and hard from the heat of the muffler over the years.













HTH,

John

Hi John
Thank you very much for your explanation. I Understand all about the two holes for the rear light and the strips outside the engine bay for the wiring but the question abot the strips inside the engine bay is still open. Are there also strips on the backside like these one the side walls from the engine bay. I think these are to hold the insulation from the engine bay in place?

Thank you very much

[Phil Planck]

Had to replace a few back there on Foam Car.

[John Pierce]

Hi Bruno,

The thin metal strips are used throughout the car to hold the wiring harness in place. I made new strips and replaced all of mine as with the bending and unbending over time the metal became weak and split. Below is a picture of the replacement panel I made for the rear of the engine bay with the tabs spot welded on.




From Bruce Baker: The inner rear hole is there merely for wrench access to the inner nuts for the rear light units for 356 A, B and C and covered with a rubber plug. The later A models with US bumpers had a hole in the center of the plug so the angled support tubes for the guards could be sealed with some fitment flexibility through similar sized holes in the outer body. Electrical wires do not go through these holes. Cut a hole in the covering insulation for access to rubber plug, i.e.; slightly bigger in diameter than the plug. The wires for the rear lights come from underneath the rear engine bay 'tray' and if an original wiring harness is being re-installed, that last transverse section of wiring will likely be brittle and hard from the heat of the muffler over the years.













HTH,

John