Dad's old '66

[Steve]

WOW! Living in Nevada has its advantages.

My old '66 never looked that good underneath, and it was only 10 years old when I bought it. My old Webasto exhaust was long gone by then. I think the parts are still available, but pricey. When I got my Webasto running I just used Home Depot copper tubing.

The car is missing the cover plate that protects the transverse member, steering gear, master cylinder, steering damper, etc. They tend to get bashed up if you run over anything big. Pretty minor considering the car is over 50 years old!

Can't wait to see the running gear.
Steve

[JTR70]

Yeah, once we got the motor out it became very clear how much damage the cross member took. That later...

Wasn't all bad news getting it up in the air. I was able to affirm definitvely of what I always knew. The pans are solid and cherry with 90% of the original undercoating intact.

Gas heater conduit didn't fare as well but there might be a replacemtn section offered? I just don't know 911's...


Back section in the same condition as the rest.

All solid around the rear torsion houings.

Both sides..

Trunk floor also solid

no cancer in and around the front suspension points.

Only mild surface rust where the coating flaked.


flaking due to all those years of battery acid exposure. Battery box area remains in very good condition.

A small hole started at the ledge where that metal clip is but otherwise its in amazingly good condition and will not warrant replacing; just some minor repair.



Lateral light conduits solid.


both sides.

front splash pan area; no issues.

As good as it is under here I did find some rot once we pulled the motor which I'll share later. Its a 50 year old Porsche so I wasn't too suprised but based on what I was finding under here I was shocked to find some rust.
Pulling the drive train next.
Thanks for looking!
Justin

[JTR70]

Made it back right at dusk with just enough light left to get her loaded up.

Had to use the winch this time as it was a little heavier than the targa.

Got a little sad loading this one up and it was almost as if my father had passed and we were just in the middle of handling his affairs. Once it came back to me that he is very much still here it was still sad but nothing compared to doing this after the fact I can certainly imagine. I may well have not been inclined to let it go; So in some respect I am relieved to be doing this now.


About ready to make the trip home. We began at 7:00AM and didn't roll in until about 11:30PM so needless to say it was it was a long one!

Unloaded the following morning to begin the transfer of parts.

Eric to the rescue once again with his wonderfully appointed shop with a bitchen lift. What an absolute luxury not having to drop the drivetrain on our backs. I owe him big time and will certainly compensate him well for all of his help! Got a good look at that old rear accident damage and as you might well of guessed, its bit more serious than I first thought. More later...
Thanks for looking!
Justin

[JTR70]

Thanks Jonothan and Welcome along here!

Thank you Steve! Sure wish I could find that old 911 emblem. Its there somewhere.
Thanks again you guys!
Justin

5/22/17
A major moving day on the 17th. To get both this car and the 67 Targa ready meant reassembling the targa as best as possible for shipping and swaping back some major components that my father used to keep this car running through the 1980's. This definitely could not be performed on site so I had to enlist the help of my long time childhood friend Eric to help me with both transport and the use of his shop lift to have any real chance of getting it accomplished.

Targa was extracted first. Some shiny chrome rims and fresh tires sure brightened its outlook even in its current state.
Thats my buddy Eric in the background. I was and still am so grateful for all his help with this mess. I'd have been up shits creek without him.


Loaded up and almost ready to make the 2.5 hour trip back home. Eric wanted to knock it out and get both cars moved that day. 2 hours there, 2 hours back, 2 times = at least 8 hours on the road not including all the futzing in between. It was a very long day.


Eric had the brilliant forethought of staging the '66 before we left with the targa. He said, lets get it all done now before we're really spent so when we get back all we have to do is loaded up. So glad I brought him. In process of swaping tires with the Targa here. So glad we did it sooner rather than later, it was a PIA to get it as my Dad had them packed together tight as a deterrent.

It wasn't easy but we managed to get the new tires on it and pushed out without damage.

All teed up and ready for our return. Sooo glad we did it before hand; Good thinking Eric!

Headed out with the targa. Its literally been 40 years since this car has left this place. More later and thanks for reading this!
Justin

[Steve]

Justin:
Great picture of you and the '66 in 1972. I see the decos and the slanted 911 insignia were still on the car then. Just classic!
Steve

[JonoF]

The car is looking great, Justin. I'm a new member kindly directed to this thread by your friend on Pelican Parts. Super interested in your car. Very few of these really early cars down under in Australia.

[JTR70]

new rubber

Wasn't picky about the tires or brand as I just needed them to be round and hold air. These are 175-65's and they look pretty nice on those narrow 4.5 inch wheels. The original chrome BTW cleaned up pretty nice. Not perfect and one of the wheels of course did not fare as well as the other three but they are all really nice driver quality. These have been rolling around loose and where of course not stored carefully for over 40 years. Like most people we didn't care about those ugly old steel wheels; Porsche alloy's was what is was all about then. Fortunately the dry desert climate saved us from our mistake.

All the wheels here are Lemmerz but the wierd thing is two are dated 7/65 and the other two are 8/65. The spare(not pictured)is actually a KPZ in chrome. Through my 356 experience they should all match perfectly but these for whatever reason do not. This is how it left the factory as these are the wheels that have always been with this car and we certainly never bought any additional steel wheels. It was Porsche alloy's only. We didn't care about the hubcaps either. I've only managed to find one but I'm optimistic I'll find the rest.

One more from waaay back, 1972ish when both me and this car were much newer. The car was in need of tires then too.

Thanks for looking!
Justin

[JTR70]

Thanks alot Steve! It has been tough getting our heads around actually letting this car go but again tough choices have to be made. I also have to be very realistic as far as my time and resouces go. At the rate I'm going how many of my cars am I actually going to finish before time runs out? Sadly I'll be lucky to get my two 356 projects done.
Thanks again Steve!!

5/16/17

Getting ready to put her back on the old steel wheels.


Found something really cool while sifting through old paperwork trying to locate the cars title. Its an old recipt from automotion, care of Foreign Auto Supply (remember them?) dated April 13, 1968 for a set of Semperit tires.


This is one of two from that old set that managed to hang around all these years.

End of the road for them today as its off to the tire shop for some fresh rubber so I can roll this car around.

[Steve]

Justin:
I hate to see your father's 911 go, I always hoped you would attack it like you did the Carrera. However growing your business is always a top priority, and how many Porsches does the average guy need? (apparently the correct answer is two).

Anyway I had to jump in here because of your comment on the Webasto heater. My '66 911 had one (a US model) and as far as I know all 911s had them as standard until the 911S came out in late '66. At that time the Webasto became standard on the S, and optional on the 911.

Those heaters were pretty neat, they sounded like a little jet engine running up there. It took some fiddling to keep them running correctly, and I always wondered if it was going to start or blow up! Just one more cool reason to own an early 911.

Good luck with the car,
Steve

[JTR70]

Trunk details.

all coatings, sound deadner and related components untouched and factory.

It was built for the European market so this car is equipped with the rare and optional gasoline heater. Also complete and undisturbed since '65.

Tank remains in original paint with tar-paper sound dampener. horsehair liner also remains under the original carpet liner.

Forward lower tray is solid with most of the original coating intact but with some surface where the battery lived. Couldn't get some underside shots of it just yet and know these cars rust out here in and around the suspension points but this car is solid...it always has been. I'll get some underside shots of the floor as well which we'll find in similar condition.

I also know they can rust out badly along the fender's mounting flanges but as you can see there are no outward signs rust or bad bubbling.

The right side is in simialr condition. There could very well be some rust way down in the flanges and we just wont know until the fenders are removed but by the looks of things it won't be serious. Note the washer bag mounted on the right hand side. This is a 1965 build detail from what I understand.
More later...
Justin

[JTR70]

Taking a break from the paperwork.

A few more interior shots.

The larger rear panels directly under the window where recovered in nagahyde in the early 80's by my father. The original covering cooked-off long ago under the desert sun. Lateral panels and jump seat related are original.

a little curley from 50 years of heat exposure but all orignal under here.

All carpeting is original.

Door panels are original but I seem to remember the caps being recovered at some point. WIndow cranks are correct but have the wrong plastic cap. I think I can find the OG round ones.

[JTR70]

Service Stubs:

Came in for service on october 13th

The next Stub for the second proceedure on that visit.

Last recorded service in Germany. No date

We know by at least April 5th of 1966 it was in Salt lake City and in for service at L.H. Strong Motors

second service performed on the same visit.


This would be the first service at 20K KM

And this was the second. Wish I could read German.

L.H. Strong Motors as found in the little red directory.

Pretty cool.

[JTR70]

I really appreciate that David. Yes, it would be nice to be able to keep them all but like you said regular guys like us have to make choices.
Thanks! Justin

Numbers match:


Second page records the chassis and motor number.(902 617) I also gather it was sold on October 4th, 1965. So this car was part of the "first wave" hitting the streets and making all the old 356 owners yearn for more.

Finally got that decklid open after 20 years.

Original Solexes were replaced with Webers Shortly after my dad bought it.

Tough to get a clear shot but

I'm seeing the same number: 902617 Original engine still with it.

More later...
Justin

[DG58INNM]

Hi Justin,
Great little time capsule you have there. Fun to see all the original docs. Sorry to see you selling. Sure it is bittersweet. But I understand. For us regular guys, its just not practical to keep everything forever. Good luck. If I hear of anyone looking, will send them your way.
DG

[JTR70]

Thanks alot for that Bill and to be honest your post did give me pause but choices have to be made. I'm trying to raise funds to buy my own workshop.(tired of renting) I suppose I could sell my 356 coupe and related projets but I'm much more partial to them. Besides my father is really getting up there and he's ready to let it go to help me along so it is officially available and so is the '67 soft window 911 targa and a donor '69 911E all with matching numbers engines. Thanks again for that nice post!
Justin

Three booklets found in that sleeve.

A very tired and tattered brochure

It describes the 911L so it must be 1968 or later?

Service directory




Be interesting if any of those old phone numbers still work.

Back cover intact

The warranty booklet is where all the historical gold is. Chassis # hand written on the cover all those years ago.

I gather it was purchased new from Otto Glockers in Frankfurt. Perhaps thats Otto's signature too? This supports the story my father was told at the dealers where he purchased it as the second owner in late 1966. This car was purchased new in Germany by a young Mormon boy while on his mission there. Got tired of walking or riding a bike through those neighborhoods I guess? Maybe a PR move? Two young kids pulling up to your door in a brand new 911 to sell you on thier religion? Anyway, once his tour as was up he had the car shipped back to the United States; Salt Lake City Utah to be exact. He drove it for maybe a few weeks after its arrival then was traded in for something more practical as he was getting married and starting a family. More later...
Justin